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Mamiya RB67 Pro SD Medium Format Film Camera
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Manufacturer Part: 301010
Brand: Mamiya
Model: RB67 Pro SD
Camera Type: SLR (Single Lens Reflex)
Film Type: Medium Format
Focus Type: Manual Focus
Product ID: EPID52104911
Description: The Mamiya RB67 Pro SD camera is the latest development in the enduring RB67 series. This new version features a larger lens mount opening and still accepts all previous RB67 lenses. However, older RB lenses will require Lens Mount Adapt...
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52 of 54 people found this review helpful.
My first RB67 was the Pro (made from 1970 to 1974); it says "PROFESSIONAL" on the sides. Later, I upgrade to an RB67 ProS (1974 to 1990); it says "PROFESSIONAL S" on the sides and “ProS” on front. I think the S is for Super. Finally, I got an RB67 ProSD (1990 to present); it says "PROFESSIONAL SD" on the sides and “ProSD” on front. I think SD stands for Super Deluxe.
All of these are mechanical 6cm by 7cm SLR's. I collected 5 lenses for it (50, 65, 90, 180 and 250mm). Some say it is too heavy. With 5 lenses and a 2 metal/wood Mamiya cases to carry it all, it is not something to haul around the San Antonio River Walk, even with wheels. (Been there; done that.) Actually, that would have been fine, had I not been going with my family. If you like to shoot alone, the weight can be worked around. My Nikon F4S with the 50mm f1.4 AF weighs as much as the RB with film back and no lens.
The RB stands for Rotating Back, and it is great. I enjoy the RB67 ProSD, but if you have a high serial number (C500000 or higher) Pro S body that still has great light seals, you don’t need the Pro SD. The ProSD will cost you more to use (an adapter ring for each lens for $10 to $15 each here on eBay) than the Pro S. Trouble is, if you can get a newer body, especially one lightly used, wouldn’t you? I did.
The Pro S and Pro SD are improved bodies that work with Pro S and Pro SD roll film backs to prevent you from accidental double exposure. You don’t have that if you use a Pro body or Pro film back in any combination. ProSD backs (say "ProSD" on hinged side) are the nicest. ProS backs say "ProS" on back. Replace any old Pro backs (have a white/red dot in window opposite side from film crank on top) with newer ones, ProSD if you can.
The nicest add-on for me was the metered chimney finder ($85-$100 on eBay; it acts more like a spot meter than the metered prism and has an adjustable diopter built in -- sweet). It let me lay down my handheld meter. After that, the Pro SD motorized film back (~$180 to 200 on eBay; it eliminates the second cranking action to advance the film, works with 120 and 220 film and runs on 4 AA cells). This is a one piece unit, unlike the ProS motorized back.
These are solid, trouble free cameras. They can break, but rarely do. What a way to move into medium format! Buy it on eBay! Save money! He who is patient can find a deal. Make a spreadsheet of all the parts and pieces, find the average price (of working items in great condition). Then you'll know a bargain when you find it. DON'T go wild bidding against a bidder with 0 feedbacks! If you are the second place bidder, you may get it when the newbee fails to pay for what he went bidding on.
Beware, if you get too good a deal. A frustrated seller may pack it poorly. It's happened to me more than once. In such a case, you can add a "great packing cash bonus" to the purchased price to encourage him to pack it well. Use the last line before the total in the purchase form, before you sign in to PayPal or else make it payable after receipt of safely shipped items. It beats returning or keeping a beat up camera from an unhappy seller. And get PayPal Verified! Don’t loose out on a good deal because you didn’t get this done!
Last, buy from sellers who have a return policy, and you won't get burned. Most sellers are honest, but in my hundreds of purchases, I met a few liars too. Learn how to open a dispute before eBay if you meet one. Good luck. Luck favors the smart bidder!
All of these are mechanical 6cm by 7cm SLR's. I collected 5 lenses for it (50, 65, 90, 180 and 250mm). Some say it is too heavy. With 5 lenses and a 2 metal/wood Mamiya cases to carry it all, it is not something to haul around the San Antonio River Walk, even with wheels. (Been there; done that.) Actually, that would have been fine, had I not been going with my family. If you like to shoot alone, the weight can be worked around. My Nikon F4S with the 50mm f1.4 AF weighs as much as the RB with film back and no lens.
The RB stands for Rotating Back, and it is great. I enjoy the RB67 ProSD, but if you have a high serial number (C500000 or higher) Pro S body that still has great light seals, you don’t need the Pro SD. The ProSD will cost you more to use (an adapter ring for each lens for $10 to $15 each here on eBay) than the Pro S. Trouble is, if you can get a newer body, especially one lightly used, wouldn’t you? I did.
The Pro S and Pro SD are improved bodies that work with Pro S and Pro SD roll film backs to prevent you from accidental double exposure. You don’t have that if you use a Pro body or Pro film back in any combination. ProSD backs (say "ProSD" on hinged side) are the nicest. ProS backs say "ProS" on back. Replace any old Pro backs (have a white/red dot in window opposite side from film crank on top) with newer ones, ProSD if you can.
The nicest add-on for me was the metered chimney finder ($85-$100 on eBay; it acts more like a spot meter than the metered prism and has an adjustable diopter built in -- sweet). It let me lay down my handheld meter. After that, the Pro SD motorized film back (~$180 to 200 on eBay; it eliminates the second cranking action to advance the film, works with 120 and 220 film and runs on 4 AA cells). This is a one piece unit, unlike the ProS motorized back.
These are solid, trouble free cameras. They can break, but rarely do. What a way to move into medium format! Buy it on eBay! Save money! He who is patient can find a deal. Make a spreadsheet of all the parts and pieces, find the average price (of working items in great condition). Then you'll know a bargain when you find it. DON'T go wild bidding against a bidder with 0 feedbacks! If you are the second place bidder, you may get it when the newbee fails to pay for what he went bidding on.
Beware, if you get too good a deal. A frustrated seller may pack it poorly. It's happened to me more than once. In such a case, you can add a "great packing cash bonus" to the purchased price to encourage him to pack it well. Use the last line before the total in the purchase form, before you sign in to PayPal or else make it payable after receipt of safely shipped items. It beats returning or keeping a beat up camera from an unhappy seller. And get PayPal Verified! Don’t loose out on a good deal because you didn’t get this done!
Last, buy from sellers who have a return policy, and you won't get burned. Most sellers are honest, but in my hundreds of purchases, I met a few liars too. Learn how to open a dispute before eBay if you meet one. Good luck. Luck favors the smart bidder!
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I want to tell you about the different models of lenses made by Mamiya for their RB67. I bought my first RB in Japan in 1973 in the US Air Force. It was the original “Professional” model and it came with a 90mm Mamiya Sekor lens. This is different then a Mamiya Sekor “C” lens or a Mamiya Sekor “K/L” lens.
The original 90mm lens had a funnel shape to the front of the lens barrel. It had a single half-wavelength anti-reflective coating on each side of each glass element. There was also an “NB” model which was produced briefly in 1974, just before the most common “C” model came out. This “C” is in green paint, on the ring that holds the front glass element in the lens, and it tells you that in this lens, each glass element is multi-coated. The “C” 90mm lenses have a straight lens barrel and were made for the Pro S camera which came out at the same time. Multi-coating improves the contrast in the image a lens produces. To learn how coatings work, read this informative page: http://rick_oleson.tripod.com/
The “K/L” lenses were designed for the RB67 Pro SD. They are improved versions from the “C” model. Go to www.Mamiya.com, and look up the RB67 Pro SD, lenses. Most of them are K/L style. The 50mm C lens was never improved upon, and is the current production lens, as is the 37mm C Fish Eye and the 150mm Variable Soft-Focus. If you want to collect an RB system with great eBay prices, learn the Mamiya site! Knowledge is Power, they say. It sure helps you know if you are bidding on a terribly badly described item.
The lenses are interchangeable between the three body models, except the 75mm Shift and the 500mm APO which will only mount on a Pro SD. Newer lenses will cost you more than the older ones here on eBay, most of the time. There is a deal for any eBayer who works hard. When you search for an item, if you use RB67, you will not find an item advertised as an RB 67. The space in the middle matters! If you want the best deal, look for every item under the key word “Mamiya”. At this moment that search brings up 1737 items spread over the next 10 days, most over the next 7. If you see an item titled, “Mamiya Sekor 50mm lens”, you may find a standard lens for an old 35mm camera that is worth $25, or a super-wide angle “C” lens for an RB67 that is worth $330. Maybe 2 other bidders will find it and bid. It will sell for less than usual, because it was poorly described. Not every seller knows to use “K/L” when they sell the newest lens either.
I once bought a very nice RB67 Pro SD with 90mm L and 180mm K/L lenses for less than I should have paid here on eBay. The seller was not familiar with the product; she was selling it for a lady she knew. Her title mentioned neither Pro SD nor K/L lenses. An astute buyer who is willing to look at every item and who can recognize the difference in lens style can find a bargain! I have also seen 2 zero feedback bidders drive the final price on an old original Professional model with a pre-C lens like I bought in 1973 higher than what I paid for the Pro SD and 90mm L and 180mm K/L lenses mentioned above. I don't know if the seller ever got paid, or if he had to re-list it and sell it again.
Mamiya’s site is a bonanza, with free many user manuals. More are hidden in places like the User’s Forum. Download them, read them and learn. If you don’t know your subject, you can miss out. Good hunting.
The original 90mm lens had a funnel shape to the front of the lens barrel. It had a single half-wavelength anti-reflective coating on each side of each glass element. There was also an “NB” model which was produced briefly in 1974, just before the most common “C” model came out. This “C” is in green paint, on the ring that holds the front glass element in the lens, and it tells you that in this lens, each glass element is multi-coated. The “C” 90mm lenses have a straight lens barrel and were made for the Pro S camera which came out at the same time. Multi-coating improves the contrast in the image a lens produces. To learn how coatings work, read this informative page: http://rick_oleson.tripod.com/
The “K/L” lenses were designed for the RB67 Pro SD. They are improved versions from the “C” model. Go to www.Mamiya.com, and look up the RB67 Pro SD, lenses. Most of them are K/L style. The 50mm C lens was never improved upon, and is the current production lens, as is the 37mm C Fish Eye and the 150mm Variable Soft-Focus. If you want to collect an RB system with great eBay prices, learn the Mamiya site! Knowledge is Power, they say. It sure helps you know if you are bidding on a terribly badly described item.
The lenses are interchangeable between the three body models, except the 75mm Shift and the 500mm APO which will only mount on a Pro SD. Newer lenses will cost you more than the older ones here on eBay, most of the time. There is a deal for any eBayer who works hard. When you search for an item, if you use RB67, you will not find an item advertised as an RB 67. The space in the middle matters! If you want the best deal, look for every item under the key word “Mamiya”. At this moment that search brings up 1737 items spread over the next 10 days, most over the next 7. If you see an item titled, “Mamiya Sekor 50mm lens”, you may find a standard lens for an old 35mm camera that is worth $25, or a super-wide angle “C” lens for an RB67 that is worth $330. Maybe 2 other bidders will find it and bid. It will sell for less than usual, because it was poorly described. Not every seller knows to use “K/L” when they sell the newest lens either.
I once bought a very nice RB67 Pro SD with 90mm L and 180mm K/L lenses for less than I should have paid here on eBay. The seller was not familiar with the product; she was selling it for a lady she knew. Her title mentioned neither Pro SD nor K/L lenses. An astute buyer who is willing to look at every item and who can recognize the difference in lens style can find a bargain! I have also seen 2 zero feedback bidders drive the final price on an old original Professional model with a pre-C lens like I bought in 1973 higher than what I paid for the Pro SD and 90mm L and 180mm K/L lenses mentioned above. I don't know if the seller ever got paid, or if he had to re-list it and sell it again.
Mamiya’s site is a bonanza, with free many user manuals. More are hidden in places like the User’s Forum. Download them, read them and learn. If you don’t know your subject, you can miss out. Good hunting.
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The RB67 SD is a Component SystemReview created: 09/09/07
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8 of 8 people found this review helpful.
The RB67 Pro SD is a great professional camera that can hold it's own against even top of the line digital SLRs. I know, because I own and have used both. This camera, however, is definitely a "tripod camera" designed for use in making carefully posed and lighted studio shots or carefully COMposed landscape shots and close-ups. It's not the sort of thing to use when you need to keep your equipment really light for hand-held shots and candids. The complete camera with lens and film back weighs nearly 7 lb. The camera is a really big, bulky, tank of a camera compared to a lot of modern digital stuff. Add an additional lens, camera backs and tripod, and you've got more than 10-12 lb. to lug around - not the sort of thing you want to take backpacking or ski touring. However, with proper film development and scanning, the Mamiya will yield comparable or superior images to most modern, digital SLR equipment. The Mamiya lenses are excellent; the camera is ruggedly built and is designed for long use. I expect to get a lot of use out of it.
The Mamiya RB67 is a COMPONENT system. If you need a camera like the RB67, make sure that you are bidding on a COMPLETE camera, including the following: lens, camera body, focusing screen, viewfinder, rotating film adaptor, and film holder or magazine. Without each of these 6 component parts in good working condition, a Mamiya RB67 Pro SD will be unusable as a camera, but it might make a pretty good (although expensive) doorstop.
I bid on and won a Mamiya RB67 Pro SD that listed as a "camera" and "lens" but it proved to be a totally stripped down camera BODY and lens. The equipment, as purchased, was not usable as a complete camera until a film back, rotating film magazine adaptor, view finder and focusing screen were purchased separately. You can find this stuff on eBay or KEH. The additional component parts ended up bringing the entire purchase to nearly double my winning bid. The seller did not list the component parts separately in his ad. However, I suspected that there were missing components from looking at the picture that was shown, so I wasn't entirely surprised. As it turned out, the components that were sold at auction were in mint condition, and the components I added were in pretty much the same condition, so I now have a really nice, COMPLETE Mamiya RB67 SD in near mint to add to my collection of cameras.
I'm new to bidding on eBay. If I had it to do over again, I would bid more money on a complete, mint or near-mint RB67 Pro SD and not waste time looking around for the additional, necessary component parts. Once you have purchased part of a camera, you pretty much have to find and purchase the rest, or you have wasted your money, and, alas, time spent is also money spent.
I should add that this is not a camera for the casual purchaser. Unless you are into film development and (chemical) print making, you'll need a good retailer who can do this work for you or provide you with negatives and either JPEGs or (preferably) TIFs on disk so that you can get them onto your computer. Those of you who have gotten into photography with digital, should keep in mind that a film exposure is a PERMANENT exposure. You can't just erase it, and (these days) film exposures are considerably more expensive per shot than digital exposures.
Keeping all of these things in mind, the RB67 Pro SD is one heck of a lot of fun to use.
The Mamiya RB67 is a COMPONENT system. If you need a camera like the RB67, make sure that you are bidding on a COMPLETE camera, including the following: lens, camera body, focusing screen, viewfinder, rotating film adaptor, and film holder or magazine. Without each of these 6 component parts in good working condition, a Mamiya RB67 Pro SD will be unusable as a camera, but it might make a pretty good (although expensive) doorstop.
I bid on and won a Mamiya RB67 Pro SD that listed as a "camera" and "lens" but it proved to be a totally stripped down camera BODY and lens. The equipment, as purchased, was not usable as a complete camera until a film back, rotating film magazine adaptor, view finder and focusing screen were purchased separately. You can find this stuff on eBay or KEH. The additional component parts ended up bringing the entire purchase to nearly double my winning bid. The seller did not list the component parts separately in his ad. However, I suspected that there were missing components from looking at the picture that was shown, so I wasn't entirely surprised. As it turned out, the components that were sold at auction were in mint condition, and the components I added were in pretty much the same condition, so I now have a really nice, COMPLETE Mamiya RB67 SD in near mint to add to my collection of cameras.
I'm new to bidding on eBay. If I had it to do over again, I would bid more money on a complete, mint or near-mint RB67 Pro SD and not waste time looking around for the additional, necessary component parts. Once you have purchased part of a camera, you pretty much have to find and purchase the rest, or you have wasted your money, and, alas, time spent is also money spent.
I should add that this is not a camera for the casual purchaser. Unless you are into film development and (chemical) print making, you'll need a good retailer who can do this work for you or provide you with negatives and either JPEGs or (preferably) TIFs on disk so that you can get them onto your computer. Those of you who have gotten into photography with digital, should keep in mind that a film exposure is a PERMANENT exposure. You can't just erase it, and (these days) film exposures are considerably more expensive per shot than digital exposures.
Keeping all of these things in mind, the RB67 Pro SD is one heck of a lot of fun to use.
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Mamiya RB67 a real workhorseReview created: 03/07/07
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6 of 8 people found this review helpful.
Rrsphoto is right; they can break, but rarely do. I bought my M used and twice my niece while still attached to a tripod knocked her over and she didn’t break. Although used and accident prone she is working as good as new, ok a minor dent on the side and a small scratch, but otherwise the camera is working fantastic even after the accidents.
It is a heavy camera and therefore best used in a studio on a tripod or on location if you don’t walk around a lot. It is not the ideal wedding camera, because she is too large and heavy.
A wonderful ‘workhorse camera’ for portraits and landscape, because of the rotating back and 6x7 cm negatives.
It is a heavy camera and therefore best used in a studio on a tripod or on location if you don’t walk around a lot. It is not the ideal wedding camera, because she is too large and heavy.
A wonderful ‘workhorse camera’ for portraits and landscape, because of the rotating back and 6x7 cm negatives.
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stepping down and out with the best MF system there isReview created: 12/03/08
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2 of 2 people found this review helpful.
I decided to buy this MF camera as lugging around my Sinar P was becoming less attractive. There are a number of excellent medium format systems available, but as I prefer 6x7 to 6x6 this 6x7 format reflex looked the best. I also wanted to stay with conventional processes rather than use digital and also keep away from plastic and electronics. The RB67 is usually billed as the professionals workhorse. As they are now coming to market at affordable prices due to the pros having to switch to digital, the big question is "is your horse knackered by the time it gets on the bay". Professionals look after their gear, but use it till its used. This was near mint, so I think I got a good deal.
What I like:
The Format - 6x7 is more pleasing to my eyes than 6x6. Just a question of taste. 6x9 is nice but I have some old folders to shoot that.
Plenty of lenses, with integral Seiko shutters, so flash sync is available at any speed you want.
Excellent quality optics.
Interchangeable backs - I use B&W neg, Colour neg, Polaroid and Fuji pack (that I also share with my Sinar). Another plus is that I can add an adapter to my Sinar system to take my Mamiya Backs. There is also a cut film back so if I want, I can do single sheets. I haven't figured out why I might want too yet.
Interhangeable viewfinders and focusing screens. I haven't got any yet, but I would like to swap my currennt focusing screen for the E type 45 degree split prism one. Otherwise I find focusing fine with what I have.
Mirror-up exposures, to eliminate vibrations. Will be useful in Macro.
The Weight. It is heavy in comparison to a Nikon 35mm, but I don't find it a handicap. I am using a tripod anyway for most work.
The safety interlocks. Houdini proof.
Majority of lenses take one size 77mm filter screw. I will find that handy as my Sinar and Hitech filter holders fit, and if I want to use screw in ones at least I only need to buy one size.
What is less likable.
Shooting on B/T speeds requires reflection...or the handbook
There is a noticable slap as the mirror comes up. I guess everything can't be as quiet as my Leicas.
A great camera for anyone with patience.
What I like:
The Format - 6x7 is more pleasing to my eyes than 6x6. Just a question of taste. 6x9 is nice but I have some old folders to shoot that.
Plenty of lenses, with integral Seiko shutters, so flash sync is available at any speed you want.
Excellent quality optics.
Interchangeable backs - I use B&W neg, Colour neg, Polaroid and Fuji pack (that I also share with my Sinar). Another plus is that I can add an adapter to my Sinar system to take my Mamiya Backs. There is also a cut film back so if I want, I can do single sheets. I haven't figured out why I might want too yet.
Interhangeable viewfinders and focusing screens. I haven't got any yet, but I would like to swap my currennt focusing screen for the E type 45 degree split prism one. Otherwise I find focusing fine with what I have.
Mirror-up exposures, to eliminate vibrations. Will be useful in Macro.
The Weight. It is heavy in comparison to a Nikon 35mm, but I don't find it a handicap. I am using a tripod anyway for most work.
The safety interlocks. Houdini proof.
Majority of lenses take one size 77mm filter screw. I will find that handy as my Sinar and Hitech filter holders fit, and if I want to use screw in ones at least I only need to buy one size.
What is less likable.
Shooting on B/T speeds requires reflection...or the handbook
There is a noticable slap as the mirror comes up. I guess everything can't be as quiet as my Leicas.
A great camera for anyone with patience.
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Mamiya RB67 Review
) 1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
This was the camera I used back when I was the school photographer for my High School back in 1976. I originally wanted a Hasselblad 500CM, but they were too expensive for me. So I settled on the Mamiya RB67 and I was so glad I did. This camera shoots a bigger frame size (6 x 7) cm. The film back rotates 90 degrees, and the photos I took with this camera were of incredibly high quality. The sharpness and detail in the 11 x 14 prints I made was eye popping.
I want to try and get this adapteed to use a digital film back and this will become my main camera once again. To see how I looked with this camera back when I was in high school type the words "rutherford high class of 77" into Google and click on the 1st link on the hits page. This will take you to the web site for my class reunion. On the home page you will see a picture of me when I was 17 years old holding this camera. I loved this camera, and I am glad to own one again.
I want to try and get this adapteed to use a digital film back and this will become my main camera once again. To see how I looked with this camera back when I was in high school type the words "rutherford high class of 77" into Google and click on the 1st link on the hits page. This will take you to the web site for my class reunion. On the home page you will see a picture of me when I was 17 years old holding this camera. I loved this camera, and I am glad to own one again.
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Mamiya RB67 Pro SD Medium Format Film Camera1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
I decided to buy this camera, because it was the best one available for me to use for portrait photography.
I work digitally everyday, but want to hone my craft with film and non-silver processes.
Having access to medium format will prove advantageous and not as cumbersome as large format, as I will be traveling and shooting things other than human.
For me, film is more contemplative. I will be doing this as a hobby and strictly for the love of it....hence an older camera with a special history.
I work digitally everyday, but want to hone my craft with film and non-silver processes.
Having access to medium format will prove advantageous and not as cumbersome as large format, as I will be traveling and shooting things other than human.
For me, film is more contemplative. I will be doing this as a hobby and strictly for the love of it....hence an older camera with a special history.
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Sure it's a Tank! But it produces Art & Pure Art !!1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
All Technical mumbo jumbo aside, if you are interested in crystal clear prints you can measure by feet instead of inchs,this just might be the camera for you.I own 2 Bodies, Various lens, backs and viewfinders. but what's great about this camera is you can not only build as you go but customise it to your precise needs. The initial cost for a starter which would include a Body,Lens,Viewfider and back can be purchased very reasonably. The only thing I would recomend is a good light meter.And good Pro Film. Oh and a sturdy tripod. Don't let the weight scare you off, let the results draw you in.
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Mamiya RB671 of 5 people found this review helpful.
It is the best professional camera, for the bargain price. What else???
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Mamiya RB67 SDReview created: 07/18/09
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My first reaction when i opened the product was that it was much larger than i expected and now i can not take it on a trip im going on becausde of it's size. But once i got over that and started playing wiht it and figuring it out i really have rapidly become attached to it. It's an amazing camera. Not for the faint hearted considering it is a completly manual camera but there in lies it's beauty. Fantastic.
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Mamiya RB67 SThe kit was more than complete, with even more accessories than I had imagined. What a steal of a deal! The description probably helped in me winning this camera as it was difficult to understand that there were numerous accessories along with the camera. If only film processing was this great of a deal.
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Mamiya Pro SD0 of 1 people found this review helpful.
This seller is too honest. No one bid on this camera because of a few minor things. I found this camera in great condition and saved several hundred dollars. Thanks, ex-usmc
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Fast shipment excellent comunicationReview created: 12/06/07
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panayios666 ( 9 )
0 of 4 people found this review helpful.
Very fast shipping good packaging the item was in the condition as described. Very
good service all the way from ordering to payment shipping and packaging.
good service all the way from ordering to payment shipping and packaging.
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